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title: Orchestrators
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description: Next level platforming is orchestrating platforms
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## Summary
When defining and setting up platforms next two intrinsic problems arise:
1. it is not declarative and automated
2. it is not or least not easily changable
Thus the technology of 'Platform Orchestrating' emerged recently, in late 2023.
## Platform reference architecture
An interesting difference between the CNCF white paper building blocks and them from Internaldeveloperplatforms is the part [**orchestrators**](https://internaldeveloperplatform.org/platform-orchestrators/).
This is something extremely new since late 2023 - the rise of the automation of platform engineering!
It was Humanitec creating a definition of platform architecture, as they needed to defien what they are building with their 'orchestrator':
## Declarative Platform Orchestration
Based on the refence architecture you next can build - or let's say 'orchestrate' - different platform implementations, based on declarative definitions of the platform design.
https://humanitec.com/reference-architectures
> Hint: There is a [slides tool provided by McKinsey](https://platformengineering.org/blog/create-your-own-platform-engineering-reference-architectures) to set up your own platform deign based on the reference architecture
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### What comes next?
[Next](../cnoe/) we'll see how we are going to do platform orchestration with CNOE!
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## Addendum
## Building blocks from Humanitecs 'state-of-platform-engineering-report-volume-2'
You remember the [capability mappings from the time before orchestration](../platforming)? Here we have a [similar setup based on Humanitecs platform engineering status ewhite paper](https://humanitec.com/whitepapers/state-of-platform-engineering-report-volume-2):
